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Zacharie WHISSELL

Zacharie WHISSELL

Male 1790 - 1866  (76 years)

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  • Name Zacharie WHISSELL 
    Born 16 Mar 1790  Whitehall,,Washington Co.,NEW YORK,,USA or Lake George, New York, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    Died 17 Sep 1866  St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Buried 19 Sep 1866  St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID 271  main
    Last Modified 28 Oct 2024 

    Father George (Jurgen, Joris) WHISSELL (Wissel),   b. 12 Feb 1758, Hessisch, Hamelyn-Plyrmont District, Niedersachsen, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Mother Sophie (Sophia, Fitje, Anna) FREELAND (Vreeland),   b. 17 Apr 1755, Passaic, New Jersey, USA Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 9 May 1829  (Age 74 years) 
    Married 4 Jun 1781  Acquackanonk, Passaic, New Jersey, USA Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Notes 
    • From: "Francis T. Watters"
      Subject: [QUEBEC] Whissel family - originally from Alsace
      Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 13:07:42 -0500

      There was some question the other day on the QUEBEC-L list about the origins
      of the Whissel family who settled around St André Avellin, Qc. in the
      mid-1800's, and some of whose descendants were in Sudbury in the early
      1900's.

      The first Whisell who came to Canada was Zachary Whesel, born about 1810 in
      New York state, s/o George Zachary Vesel. George Zachary Vesel emigrated
      from Alsace to the US around 1780-1790. Whether he was a Hessian or not is
      not stated in the book that I have (La fascinante épopée de
      Saint-André-Avellin, by Jacques Lamarche, Editions Petite-Nation, 1996).
      But I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps he could be George Vensell, or
      Wentzel who is listed in John's book "Guide to help you find your Hessian
      Soldier of the American Revolution", pg 86 although that Vensell may have
      settled in PA and not NY. John might be able to provide more info on that.

      Zachary Whesel settled in Alexandria, Ont. where he married Eva Fischer.
      >From Alexandria he moved to St Andrews East, Que. He raised four boys (the
      article doesn't mention any girls): Stephen (Etienne), Frederick, Samuel
      and Isaac. Etienne's grandson moved to Papineauville, and the latter's son
      to St André-Avellin.
      Others may know more about the migration of the other children's descendants
      in other parts of Canada.

      Frank
    Family ID 110022  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Marie DESLOGES-POIRIER,   b. 23 May 1804, Vaudreuil(Ste-Madeleine), QUEBEC Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 16 May 1865, St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 60 years) 
    Married 27 Jul 1856  St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Pierre WHISSELL,   b. Abt 1830, St Andre d'Argenteuil,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Bef 1889  (Age < 58 years)
     2. Frederick WHISSELL,   b. Abt 1834, St Andrews East,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location
    +3. Etienne-Guilbert WHISSELL,   b. Abt 1834, St Andrews East,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 30 Apr 1910, St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 76 years)
     4. Henry(Honore) WESSEL,   b. Jun 1837, St Andre d'Argenteuil,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. Joseph WHISSELL,   b. May 1840, St Andre d'Argenteuil,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Marie WHISSELL,   b. Abt 1842
     7. Frederick WHISSELL,   b. Mar 1842, St Andre d'Argenteuil,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Jan 1925, St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 82 years)
    Last Modified 24 Nov 2020 
    Family ID 109629  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Eve FISHER,   b. Abt 1790,   d. 1822  (Age 32 years) 
    Children 
     1. John WHISSEL,   b. Abt 1809,   d. 20 Aug 1889, Hospice St-Charles, Ottawa Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 80 years)
     2. Georges WHISSELL,   b. 28 May 1813, St Andre d'Argenteuil,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 15 Sep 1902, Montreal (paroisse Enfant Jesus), Québec Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 89 years)
     3. Samuel WHISSELL,   b. 23 Jul 1818, St Andre d'Argenteuil,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Apr 1900, St Andre Avellin,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 81 years)
     4. Peter WHISSELL,   b. Abt 1820, St Andre d'Argenteuil,,,QUEBEC,, Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. Isaac-Zacharie WHISSELL,   b. Abt 1822,   d. Bef 1900  (Age < 77 years)
    Last Modified 24 Nov 2020 
    Family ID 110029  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Documents
    Sépulture de Zacharie Whissell
1866
    Sépulture de Zacharie Whissell 1866
    Régistre paroisse
    St-André d'Avellin
    Zacharie Whissell dit Zacharai - Marie Desloges mariage
    Zacharie Whissell dit Zacharai - Marie Desloges mariage
    Zacharie Whistle 1851 census Petite Nation
    Zacharie Whistle 1851 census Petite Nation
    according to this census Zacharie was 66 yrs old which means he would have been born circa 1785
    Vente par Z. Whissell a P Laberge
17 mai 1859
    Vente par Z. Whissell a P Laberge 17 mai 1859
    Vente par Sr. Zacharie Whissell a Sr. Pierre Périard
9 mai 1859
    Vente par Sr. Zacharie Whissell a Sr. Pierre Périard 9 mai 1859
    Zacharie Whissel Marie Desloges 1861 census
    Zacharie Whissel Marie Desloges 1861 census
    According to this census, Zacharie says he was born at Lake George USA
    Zacharie Whissell 1842 census’
    Zacharie Whissell 1842 census’

    Baptism
    Zacharie Whissell
baptism 1858 St-André-Avellin Que.
    Zacharie Whissell baptism 1858 St-André-Avellin Que.
    according to this baptism Zacharie said that he was born in the Cité de Whitehall, USA. A baptism is necessary for Zacharie to become Catholic and validate the marriage that took place in 1856. He was Lutheran prior to becoming Catholic.

    Maps
    Whitehall township, Pennsylvania
    Whitehall township, Pennsylvania

  • Notes 
    • It is said that the Whetsels came from Alsace. Could this be Alsace Township in Pensylvania?

      Check out for possible Whetsel, Wesel, etc
      Vol 1 and Vol 2 of "Gravestones of Glengarry" by Alex W. Fraser, U.E.
      Volume I published 1976 ISBN 0919303080
      Volume II published 1978 ISBN 0919303250

      George Wetzel listed in the 1790 Virginia Census p 64 Shenandoah co.
      Abram Freeland listed in the 1790 Virginia Census p 78, Surry Co.

      George Whezel listed in the 1790 Pennsylvania Census p 36 Berks Co.
      There is also Lower Alsace township in this county, formerly Alsace co.
      Other Wetzel found on p 36, 37, 179, 176
      Also interesting is that three is Benjamin Freeland listed in Washington co. p 249.

      Visit the US 1790 Census at http://www.census.gov/prod/www/abs/decennial/1790.htm

      Whitehall, Washington co., New York state, formerly called Skenesboro

      From: Francis T. Watters
      Date: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:07 PM
      To: QUEBEC-L@rootsweb.com
      Subject: [QUEBEC] Whissel family - originally from Alsace

      The first Whisell who came to Canada was Zachary Whesel, born about 1810 in
      New York state, s/o George Zachary Vesel. George Zachary Vesel emigrated
      from Alsace to the US around 1780-1790. Whether he was a Hessian or not is
      not stated in the book that I have (La fascinante épopée de
      Saint-André-Avellin, by Jacques Lamarche, Editions Petite-Nation, 1996).
      But I wouldn't be surprised if perhaps he could be George Vensell, or
      Wentzel who is listed in John's book "Guide to help you find your Hessian
      Soldier of the American Revolution", pg 86 although that Vensell may have
      settled in PA and not NY. John might be able to provide more info on that.

      Zachary Whesel settled in Alexandria, Ont. where he married Eva Fischer.
      >From Alexandria he moved to St Andrews East, Que. He raised four boys (the
      article doesn't mention any girls): Stephen (Etienne), Frederick, Samuel
      and Isaac. Etienne's grandson moved to Papineauville, and the latter's son
      to St André-Avellin.

      Other link to Wentzel family from Nova Scotia "http://www.qcis.ns.ca/wentzell/guest.html"

      Bapteme St Andre Avellin:
      Le quatorze juin mil huit cent cinquante huit, nous cure soussigne, avons baptise Zacharie, ne le seize mai(mars?) mil sept cent nonante, du mariage legitime de George Whissel, cultivateur, et de Sophie Freeland, dans la cite de Whitehall (Etats Unis d'Amerique). Le Parain a ete Edouard Leduc ecuyer, maire de la municipalite de St-Andre-Avellin et la maraine Louise Seguin, qui ont signe avec nous.

      G A Proulx

      Ed Leduc
      L Seguin

      Certificat de Mariage 27 Juillet 1856, St-Andre-Avellin

      Le vingt sept juillet mil huit cent cinquante six, nous cure soussigne, vu la despense de trois bans de
      mariage accordes en vertu des pouvoirs que nous avons recu de sa Grandeur Mgr Jos. Eug. Bruno Guigues,
      Eveque de Bytown, entre Zacharie Whissel dit Sacarai, fils majeur de feu George Whissel, cultivateur et de Sophie
      Freeland de la paroisse de St Andre Avellin, d'une part et Marie Desloges, fille majeure de Joseph Desloges
      cultivateur et de Marie Dupuis, aussi de cette paroisse d'autre part, aucun empechement ne s'etant apporte a ce
      mariage, nous avons recu le mutuel consentement des deux epoux en presence de Eustache Turpin, pere, bedeau,
      et de Gabriel Cere, pere, qui n'ont pu signer leurs noms.

      Saint-André

      Registres 1818-1882: microfilm M128-54 (ANQM)

      Sepulture St-Andre Avellin:

      Le dix neuf septembre mil huit cent soixante six, nous cure soussigne avons inhume dans le cimetiere de cette paroisse le corps de Zacharie Whissel cultivateur domicilie en cette paroisse, decede au meme lieu le dix sept du courant a l'age de quatre vingt ans et cinq mois. Etaient presents Georges Whissel son fils, Emery Villeneuve et Francois Bourgeois qui ont declare ne savoir signer.

      From: "Elaine Brown"
      Subject: [Q-R] Germain Poirier aka Pierre Germain Whessel b. c. 1820
      Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 11:37:22 -0500

      I'm following up on a lead given to me by Gary Boivin about the spouse of my
      great-grandaunt Alice Burns. She married Germain Poirier I figure sometime
      around 1845 as their first child Amable Germain Poirier was baptised 31 Jan
      1847 at St. Alphonsus, Chapeau, Pontiac Co. with sponsors Bernard Byrn and
      Mary Cahill. There isn't a record of their marriage from 1846 onward.

      The story goes that a lady named Marguerite Treganning has written a book in
      French in which she says a family named Whessel came to Canada and the
      parents died aboard ship. The youngest lad Pierre Germain Whessel was taken
      in / adopted by a Poirier family west of Montreal. Since the Poiriers
      already had a son named Pierre he used his middle name of Germain. He was
      never again seen by his 2 much older brothers who were placed near
      St-Andre-Avellin, Quebec (Petite Nation, Papineau, Co). There is apparently
      a record that shows that he married an Irish girl with the last name of
      Burns.

      After a search on the Internet the only place I could find for the name
      Whessel was at St-Andre-Avellin so possibly the older brothers kept their
      names???

      Can anyone help me further with this mystery please? Is Whessel a French
      name? certainly Pierre and Germain are French names. My only other clue is a
      photo of Amable which shows him to be about 6' 5" with long white hair and
      beard.

      Thanks for any help,

      Need to visit the museum for http://www.museumsusa.org/museums/info/1155278 for ancestors of Zachariah Whissell
    • From: Ian Hendry
      Date: March 16, 2010 at 12:50:49 PM EDT
      To: Paul Antoine Lavoie
      Cc: 'Robert Whissiel' , karel
      Subject: Christopher Whiessiel

      Dear Paul-Antoine,

      Thank you very much for getting back to me. The mystery of our ancestor, Christopher Whiessiel, has been a part of family lore for as long as any of us can remember. I am very excited to hear that you too have heard the tale of the “7 brothers”. Since you have had no idea of our Christopher it makes the connection all the more intriguing. I have copied this email to my cousins, Dr. Robert Whissiel of Seattle, Washington, and Ms. Karel Horsley of Toronto. They have been researching the family name for decades and have been a true inspiration to me on this journey.



      Although it is difficult to say exactly where Christopher was born, the many censuses that he shows up in have him of German or French heritage. His son listed his birthplace as New York in the United States Census of 1880. My grandmother always told me his name was Christopher Lucius Addison LeMab Fischer Whiessiel. He was from a family of United Empire Loyalists, he was the 7th son of a 7th son, and that all of his brothers came to Canada as lumbermen.



      Based upon your record indicating Zacharie’s father was named George, I did some “surfing” on the internet and found an intriguing record. There is a Georg(e) Wissel listed in a immigration record showing him coming to North America as a Hessian soldier in the Brunswick regiment. That regiment was stationed exclusively in Quebec and upstate New York. In fact, they fought in the Battle of Skenesborough! The record shows that he came to an unknown port in 1776 and that he was born in 1751.



      If George had stayed in North America, it would be very probable that he would have been in the Skenesborough area at the end of the war, or he could have come back there at its conclusion. There were several British forts in the area. However I can find no records of a George Wissel or Whissel (or Whiessel, Wizel, etc.) for that matter.



      I also find the St. Andre-Avellin connection intriguing. There is a death record for a Z. Josephe Whissel in Russell Ontario (I’ll look it up and send it to you) - - I think she died in about 1882. She was born in St. Andre-Avellin. Could this be Zacharie’s daughter? Christopher’s family, and another family of Whissel’s that I believe to be Christopher’s brother (or nephew?) Mathew’s family all lived in Russell for a number of years. It is such a small village that I have to believe they would have been related in some way with a name like Whissel.



      I look forward to further correspondence,



      Sincerely,



      Ian B. Hendry



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      Memphis TN 38104

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    • assenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s
      about Georg Wissel
      Name: Georg Wissel
      Year: 1776
      Age: 25
      Estimated Birth
      Year: abt 1751
      Place: Port uncertain
      Source
      Publication
      Code:
      8560
      Primary
      Immigrant: Wissel, Georg
      Annotation:
      From the Staatsarchiv at Wolfenbuettel, Germany, where file 38B Alt.
      Nr. 260 is a summary list of Brunswick mercenaries sent to America in
      British service during the American Revolution. The detachment served
      mainly in Canada and northern New York. Most o
      Source
      Bibliography:
      SMITH, CLIFFORD NEAL. Brunswick Deserter-Immigrants of the
      American Revolution. (German-American Genealogical Research
      Monograph, 1.) Thomson, IL: Heritage House, 1973. [54p.]
      Page: 47
    • According to the 1861 census, he stated he was born in Lake George, Warren Co. New York in 1790.

      According to his baptism, he stated he was born in the city of Whitehall, New York.

      Only 25 miles separate the2 cities. There is an obvious connection between the two. This is shortly after the American revolution. Was his father George a participant in the revolution?